@malcolm this says it all:
“Aston Villa
Edwards was born in Telford, Shropshire.[3] He started his career as an apprentice at Aston Villa, and worked his way up to his first-team debut on 28 December 2002, in a 1–0 home win over Middlesbrough.“
It must be in the runes. 😉😎
Thank you all for your replies ref to Rob Edwards. Now I know who he is 😏
Boro’s official statement on the Wilder sacking is curt and very much to the point. It lacks grace, and definitely lacks any kind of acknowledgement of progress or any of the kind of effusiveness you occasionally get when a much-loved manager is fired. No love lost here. It definitely hints at untoward things having gone on behind the scenes. Perhaps CW let it be known one too many times that he wasn’t happy with recruitment and perhaps he played on this too often with his team-selections, intending to send a message upstairs?? Who knows? Pure speculation on my part. We’ll probably never know.
Over to you, OFB! Can you spill any beans without upsetting your friends in high places?
I suppose it was on the cards that CW would go. Just a pity the decision wasn’t made before the 2 week break giving a new manager valuable time on the training ground whereas now there’s little opportunity with two games per week.
I wouldn’t be happy with Rob Edwards who has just been sacked by Watford.
S. Dyche comes to mind and I’m sure he’d do a good job but , no doubt, he’s waiting for a Premiership club.
I can’t think of any suitable available managers and wouldn’t be averse to a “ Karanka type” appointment ie a British or foreign coach who’s been working with a standout manager.
Perhaps there’s someone behind the scenes at Man City ?!!
Philip of Huddersfield
After looking at Edwards portfolio, I personally don't think he is suitable at this time for Boro. Steve Gibson will be looking for a more experienced manager I would have thought.
If we all stop and think about the events over the past six months we have all stopped being positive about the Boro and in the main been pessimistic and not very hopeful.
It all stems from the top and if it’s Steve Gibson relayed through to his Chief Executive and friction with the manager it cascades down to the players. It hasn’t seemed a happy camp since the Burnley management appointment debacle and results went downhill from that period.
The appointment of younger coaches with Boro background and reorganisation of the scouting team would seem to indicate a new philosophy that a number of clubs are adopting or have already adopted.
It could also be asked why run a Premiership grade Academy when few players are making the grade into our first team. Yet one of our young players wins a man of the match performance on Saturday and all their fans shout “sign him on!”
The talk of signing a 39 year old as manager should therefore not be a surprise if Boro are to adopt a youthful policy of going forward. It’s certainly differen different to having a coaching staff of 73,74 and 75 year olds in the dugout !
I must confess that I had lost faith in Wilder and had stopped watching his boring press conferences expounding his “heavy shirt” theories and how he knew how to achieve results.
Roll on the new management team and hopefully success. Because let’s not forget Diasborians it’s our team not theirs !
OFB
Probably a coincidence, but Chris Wilder’s post match interview was blocked out on my iPad on Saturday and still is, just a black screen.
On another theme this Erling Haarland has just scored 3 consecutive hat tricks in home matches for Manchester City. But do I need to remind everyone that Boro’s George Camsell once scored 26 goals in 9 matches albeit in the Second Division in 1926 and that Ted Drake holds the record of 7 goals in the 7-1 away win in the First Division against Aston Villa in 1935. Whether Everton’s Dixie Dean ever scored 3 consecutive hat tricks I don’t know, but he did score 60 goals in a season in 1927/28, but of course football was only invented in 1992 when the Premier League was formed!
My grandson has just suggested Scott Parker.
Not a guy I warm to - he’s a bit too Sathern, a bit too Cockney - but he did a sound job at Bournemouth.
Then so did Jonathan Woodgate!
quite right. I just hope that it’s red against Millwall as well
Jonathan Woodgate and Gary O'Neill as a pair, anyone?
They worked together at Bournemouth. In fact I think Woody bought Gary to Bournemouth in the first place.
So O'Neill coming as a head coach and Woody assisting. The latter was Championship Manager of the Month in December 2019 and April 2021
I would like to have a manager assosiated with Boro. Pity Mogga is not free anymore. He took over too hastily the Sunderland job 😔.
Really, I hope we do not bring in a Pulis, Warnock or S. Dyche type of manager. And then needing eight new players on loan in January, again. Remember Uche?
When will we learn? Now we have had more managers than Chelsea in recent past.
Up the Boro!
Thank goodness.
I mentioned getting Steve Gibson to speak to AFCB when they let Scott Parker go, to persuade them to take CW off our hands and we could install Scott Parker as his replacement. Still think SP could be a good appointment.
For now, lets hope even a fraction of Leo's passion rubs off onto the players and he can start us on a good run starting with Birmingham.
Please not Scott Parker, Powmill. I can barely think of a more overhyped youngish coach.
He's had two plum jobs in the Championship and only just got them over the line with two of the best squads around. I really wouldn't want to test him with a lesser squad such as ours.
People suggesting Gary O’Neil I don’t think his wife would let him come to Middlesbrough, do people forget how he left Boro !
Come on BORO.
Gareth Southgate might be available after the World Cup.....
Gareth Southgate might be available after the World Cup.....
The best suggestion so far! If Mogga not willing to suit Sunderland, there is another club Legend. Our most successful captain ever.
Up the Boro!
I have actually forgotten - did it involve his wife saying something?
I don't recall anything about his wife, but there is this
Ah. But a bit of googling revealed this: https://www.eurosport.com/football/championship/2009-2010/wag-hopes-husband-loses_sto2258760/story.shtml
Can't honestly say I remember it, but there it is....
Sounds like the Facebook post by his wife was meant as joke but Gary O'Neil admitting he deliberately got booked to get a two-game ban so he could watch the golf at home with his mates is definitely out of order. Does anyone know if Crooks likes watching golf...
Yes I will reply, every season there are quite famous players who are retiring from the game and looking for a club. There is one such player enjoying his first season as a manager, of African descent, he is managing, I think, one of the London clubs, Q.P.R.? These are the people who bring new ideas into the game, such as coaching as a serious subject, because when you play at the top level you are subjected to some very serious tactical ideas, plus of course you will know several young players who are undervalued and, more important, are available, especially if you are well liked in the game. As ever, it's not what you know but who you know.
There are rumours on twitter about Wilder that he applied for Bournemouth job without telling Gibson
mmmm
OFB
@plato. If you are referring to the QPR manager, Michael Beale, then he is not a famous former player (retired at age 21) he is also not of African descent.
He has, however, coached Liverpool U16s, Chelsea, an assistant at Sao Paulo and been assistant to Steven Gerrard at Rangers and Aston Villa prior to his current appointment.
I do take your point that we perhaps need to look outside the box because our previous recruitment of managers, AK apart, have failed us. 😎
There are rumours on twitter about Wilder that he applied for Bournemouth job without telling Gibson
mmmm
OFB
If true and if SG has evidence of that, I wonder how that would pan out at an employment tribunal in respect of CW having to have his contract paid up, or not. Of course, I'm sure we can always rely on the integrity of the man, who like the honourable Gordon Strachan before him refused to seek to have any compensation on leaving his post on the basis that he knew he hadn't achieved anything remotely like what he had been employed to deliver...
@plato. If you are referring to the QPR manager, Michael Beale, then he is not a famous former player (retired at age 21) he is also not of African descent.
He has, however, coached Liverpool U16s, Chelsea, an assistant at Sao Paulo and been assistant to Steven Gerrard at Rangers and Aston Villa prior to his current appointment.
I do take your point that we perhaps need to look outside the box because our previous recruitment of managers, AK apart, have failed us. 😎
I’m assuming we’re talking about Patrick Viera at Crystal Palace, although why he wasn’t just described as French is beyond my understanding.
I would like to think nobody would be that stupid given that Bournemouth would have to then formally ask Boro for permission to speak to Wilder.
@martin-bellamy. No I wasn’t talking about Patrick Viera.
The description of the person was that used by Plato in his original post. 😎
- @k-p-in-spain Sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest that you meant Viera. I was assuming that he was the manager Plato was alluding to.
@martin-bellamy. I remain confused by Plato’s post as I didn’t think about Viera as QPR were mentioned.
Additionally, Viera is not in his first season as a manager where as Michael Beale is.
I am sure Plato can clarify should he wish to do so. 😎