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Plato
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@werdermouth. this is becoming tedious, a manager with no idea, a club in free fall, not possible to forecast his selections. Sounds like he wants to be away. He disappeared before the end, I wonder why? His record is frightening, last year he loaned out a player who was wanted by many clubs, and was duly sold (with us having very little say in the matter, and that does include price). We have not fielded a striker for a long time, and yet again loaned out our Young and promising josh at the start of this season. Last night I watched as we stood around in our half for the First half, did not try an inch, three down with 20 minutes left to half time, Dumbo stood there and watched it all. At half time he brought on his First choice selections, easily pulled two back, then resorted to standing about in our own half, until, with ten to go, he brought on another First choice. You could not invent this stuff. Cardiff were very poor, and were given these points. Oh! And we still give Jones the ball with three men round him, every time.


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Let’s get this straight. I don’t use what is today classed as strong language which the media sometimes refer to as industrial language,but what I class as obscene language. Nevertheless like most people I have strong OPINIONS although perhaps not so many in my dotage when all I want really is to die in peace.

I was not making my remarks denigrating either Werdermouth nor Martin but just replying to their comments. Each to one’s own opinions I get that. But anyone who has given their life in service to the country with great dignity deserves recognition in my opinion and the fact that funerals of royalty, world statesmen, presidents, etc take long to arrange requires patience and prolongs the mourning. I respect other people’s views and am a Christian but also respect that some other religious orders have their own leaders to look up to.

I lived through the Second World War and adults particularly needed someone to pray to for deliverance from evil. I am from both German and Welsh ancestry but accept that not all Germans wanted war. The trouble is with voting for Republicans is the fact one might install a megalomaniac like Adolf Hitler on false promises and once appointed is difficult to get rid of without a revolution and most of us wouldn’t want that.

If we had lived in the 19th century would we have shown the same allegiance to Queen Victoria as many have shown to Queen Elizabeth ll?  If it ain’t broke why fix it, and in my opinion the Windsors are here to stay well into the 21st century despite certain misgivings we may have about Charles III. 

This is by no means a rant but an explanation of perhaps a slightly eccentric old codger who lives alone. One thing I learned during my National Service was to respect the rank if not the holder of it, so I’ll end with “God Save the King”.

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Boroexile
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I suspect that last night’s shambles will prove to be the tipping point that spells the end for CW and the only question is when the end will come. He is the man responsible for the team’s performance and yesterday was the worst for a long, long time.  The team has made no progress compared with last season and if anything has gone backwards.  It appears that CW is unhappy about what is or isn’t going on behind the scenes and an unhappy manager is not the right person to continue to manage the team.  Steve Gibson needs to deal with it quickly or the situation could rapidly go from bad to worse.  There is little point in waiting to act or we risk falling into a relegation battle which would be a disaster. 


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Posted by: @clive-hurren

@werdermouth 

Hi werder. Is there a way I can spot who is liking / disliking my posts? Now it says so-and-so has reacted. 

I can’t imagine anyone ever disliking my posts (! 😉 !), and if they did I’m not going to get shirty or shouty, but it would be nice to know! 

 

Hi Clive

It happened after the latest update of the Forum software - I've disabled dislike so there won't be any but I'm working on returning the full list of people who liked a post as I know it's annoying.

I installed a local version of Diasboro on my laptop to try and inject my own code and had thought I'd cracked it at the weekend when I had all posts with the list of all people who liked them before discovering adding a new ''like reverted it back to 'reacted' without the full list - I think they're using some kind of Javascript that I can't intercept as it's done in each person's browser.

The people who wrote the Forum software have written it in a different way than it was before and didn't include what are known as 'hooks' so that others can add customised code that override it won't get overwritten with each update.

So it's quite complicated as there is no documentation on exactly how to change it but it's a case of trying to track down similar examples on techie forums but that often leads to dead ends or programming concepts that make my head hurt!

My next move may be to edit the code directly and then save the Forum add-on code under a different name so it won't get overwritten by updates - it's not good practice but I'm running out of ideas.

I'll keep everyone posted - maybe during the international break I will finally sort it out.


K P in Spain
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@werdermouth.  Thanks Werder for all you do, without you most of us would be lost trying to deal with the technical aspects of the blog; some of us struggle to just leave a reply! 😉😎


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Werdermouth

What I feel now is the difficulty in trying to ascertain what I actually wrote as my short term memory is sometimes short-lived. For example I didn’t intend or expect my post on HRH to cause such a furore and apologise if it felt like an attack on yourself or Martin.


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Pedro de Espana
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@werdermouth    Thanks for all the time and effort Werder.
 However, as frustrating as the “reacted” issue is, possibly more for you than me, it is not the end of the world is it does not change.

Sometimes, to be truthful, (not that I use them) I believe platforms such as Twitter and Instagram are driven by who likes who. We are not either, but you probably get my drift.


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Posted by: @ken

Werdermouth

What I feel now is the difficulty in trying to ascertain what I actually wrote as my short term memory is sometimes short-lived. For example I didn’t intend or expect my post on HRH to cause such a furore and apologise if it felt like an attack on yourself or Martin.

Thanks Ken. Let’s all live in harmony.


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Posted by: @clive-hurren

@werdermouth 

Hi werder. Is there a way I can spot who is liking / disliking my posts? Now it says so-and-so has reacted. 

I can’t imagine anyone ever disliking my posts (! 😉 !), and if they did I’m not going to get shirty or shouty, but it would be nice to know! 

 

Clive,

I dislike your posts when you sometimes keep us waiting for them. It's the anticipation I find difficult.


Malcolm
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I feel disappointed that Ken Smith is getting a bit of flack. Ken is a mastermind in his old age and suffers from illnesses that most of us wouldn't be able to handle. He is the godfather of this site. Please respect Ken


werdermouth
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@ken 

It's often the problem when replying to posts, particularly when you disagree with something, as they often don't come across exactly as you meant to say them. I've done it myself and unlike a conversation where you get instant interjection or clarification, forums do need everyone to try to give the benefit of the doubt.

Funnily enough I was talking to my parents yesterday, who were both born the same year as you I think in 1938, and they have a very similar take on observing the national mourning and are watching all the coverage. My mother remembered when George VI died she has to sing God Save the Queen as one of four children chosen to do so for a radio broadcast. The death of the King was big thing back then and even cinema's were closed.

Anyway, we had a good chat about many of the issues raised on Diasboro and while we don't always agree it's all good natured and I know when it's best not to try and get the last word as I know they're not going to change their view as it's deeply ingrained in them from their reference points and experiences.

Which is exactly like it is on here and getting annoyed when we read something we don't like is probably inevitable but hopefully we know at the end of the day we're all just members of the Diasboro family and we just agree to disagree.

So I'm not taking anything you wrote personally and just know you feel just as strongly as I do or Martin about issues. That's the way it should be and it's not a big deal if we disagree on such matters. I can't speak for Martin but I gave my reply to your post and have moved on without worrying anymore about the matter - though have just seen Martin has also moved on 😀 

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Ken Smith
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Regarding Boro, football, cricket, there are always times when sport will let you down because of its competitiveness. So that’s why today I prefer listening to music. Music will never let you down, maybe the odd performer might it be a rock star, a symphony orchestra, an opera star, a ballet performance, or a singer. Why? Because the composers have stood the test of time be they Chopin, Strauss, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Cole Porter, John Philip Sousa or Scott Joplin. It sure takes out the stress of watching Middlesbrough FC. At the moment it is a preferable option.

Does anyone think a spell in League One will reignite Boro’s future?  No, I thought not! But if anyone thinks that the Championship is a difficult League from which to gain promotion then just ask the supporters of Bolton, Charlton, Derby, Ipswich, Portsmouth or Sheffield Wednesday, all former First Division Champions and FA Cup Winners. Boro might have gained immediate promotion on the twice they have been there, but may find it more difficult a third time. Boro’s fans can’t all turn to music as an alternative.

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Martin Bellamy
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Posted by: @malcolm

I feel disappointed that Ken Smith is getting a bit of flack. Ken is a mastermind in his old age and suffers from illnesses that most of us wouldn't be able to handle. He is the godfather of this site. Please respect Ken

As you’ll see from his earlier posts, I’m sure Ken is quite happy to handle any issues himself. If you feel that I’m not showing respect to him, I’d respectfully point out that you’re wrong.


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Powmill-Naemore
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Posted by: @lenmasterman

Clive,

I dislike your posts when you sometimes keep us waiting for them. It's the anticipation I find difficult.

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Actually I wonder about my own posts sometimes and decide it is best to dislike them too - especially when there isn't a disown option !!

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Plato
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@werdermouth 

Lovely statement, and covers my opinions exactly, I love all opinions on this blog, and fully accept that someone will think that Jones, for instance is rubbish and the cause of all our problems. So keep them coming, maybe our manager is one of the greats?


Powmill-Naemore
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Saw this and thought of us ..... (Thanks to Sir Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder)

 

Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmonySide by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't we?
We all know that people are the same wherever you goThere is good and bad in ev'ryoneWe learn to live, when we learn to giveEach other what we need to survive, together alive
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmonySide by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord why don't we?
Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmonyEbony, ivory, ooh
We all know that people are the same wherever you goThere is good and bad in ev'ryoneWe learn to live, when we learn to giveEach other what we need to survive, together alive
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmonySide by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord why don't we?
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't weEbony, ivory, living in perfect harmonyEbony, ivory, living in perfect harmonyEbony, ivory, living in perfect harmonyEbony, ivory, living in perfect harmonyEbony, ivory, living in perfect harmonyEbony, ivory, living in perfect harmony

Ken Smith
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 Some of you may have noticed my love of music especially when I wrote about some of my favourite composers a few years ago. One that hadn’t come to my attention at the time was Captain John Mackenzie-Rogan born in the Isle of Wight in 1885. He was a Conductor and Composer of Military Marches. I must confess that I’d never heard of him assuming that Kenneth Alford wrote most of the British military marches at that time.

However I did know one of Mackenzie-Rogan’s marches when I heard it and at least the title seems appropriate for this forum - it’s entitled ‘The Bond of Friendship’ which many of you may recognise on hearing it. It’s a stirring march which can be found by just typing Bond of Friendship (machenzie-rogan) on one’s iPad and googling it. I’m afraid I don’t go in for all this htpps// palaver, don’t understand what it means.

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werdermouth
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@powmillnaemore 

I was thinking maybe the Frogs Chorus would be more appropriate 😏 


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Powmill-Naemore
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Posted by: @werdermouth

@powmillnaemore 

I was thinking maybe the Frogs Chorus would be more appropriate 😏 

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@exmil 

The words "his coaching team" are an  abuse of the Kings English. This is the original uncoached team, not their fault, the Manager's fault. I have never seen a single move from the training ground from this Manager. Coaching is vital if you mean to win most of your matches. Watch his use of Jones, never put through near the box, and I mean never! When he is sold he will bring a dead average price, and be a star.  


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jarkko
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Posted by: @k-p-in-spain

@exmil.  I agree and wonder if CW’s comments about needing a LCB earlier in the year has unsettled him.  

He has certainly not been the player he was previously and I was disappointed to learn he was playing instead of Dijksteel; he was at fault for the first goal and was rightfully substituted at half time. 😎

Or perhaps he is not 100% fit. But then I wonder why he is constantly picked up over Dijksteel.  UTB!


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Original Fat Bob
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@ken 

The only music I want to hear is “The only way is up 🎶”

OFB


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Philip of Huddersfield
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A day later and last night’s performance doesn’t seem any less bad.

Trying to think of anything positive all I can come up with is, the crowd who really got behind the team after the second goal.

I am left with a memory of a team in tatters who looked more demoralised as each goal was conceded. Noticeably there was a lack of leadership on the pitch.

So, we move onto the next game in the hope that Boro at least do the basics of commitment, effort, passing the ball with purpose, playing like a team which has a clear pattern of play etc - and somehow squeeze out a victory.  
Philip of Huddersfield 

ps The Huddersfield coach has been sacked with a not dissimilar record as Boro.


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Martin Bellamy
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Posted by: @original-fat-bob

@ken 

The only music I want to hear is “The only way is up 🎶”

OFB

Or, “Things can only get better”.


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Clive Hurren
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Posted by: @k-p-in-spain

@werdermouth.  Thanks Werder for all you do, without you most of us would be lost trying to deal with the technical aspects of the blog; some of us struggle to just leave a reply! 😉😎

Hear, hear. Many thanks Werder. You’re a star!


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Clive Hurren
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Posted by: @clive-hurren

@werdermouth 

Hi werder. Is there a way I can spot who is liking / disliking my posts? Now it says so-and-so has reacted. 

I can’t imagine anyone ever disliking my posts (! 😉 !), and if they did I’m not going to get shirty or shouty, but it would be nice to know! 

 

Clive,

I dislike your posts when you sometimes keep us waiting for them. It's the anticipation I find difficult.

You’re too kind, Len! Either that, or deluded!!


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Posted by: @clive-hurren
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@werdermouth 

Hi werder. Is there a way I can spot who is liking / disliking my posts? Now it says so-and-so has reacted. 

I can’t imagine anyone ever disliking my posts (! 😉 !), and if they did I’m not going to get shirty or shouty, but it would be nice to know! 

 

Clive,

I dislike your posts when you sometimes keep us waiting for them. It's the anticipation I find difficult.

You’re too kind, Len! Either that, or deluded!!

Clive,

Of course I'm deluded.  I'm a lifelong Boro fan. We all are, by definition, as contributors to this brilliant, misguided, addictive blog.

But I'm not in my appreciation of the fantastic work and commitment of its contributors.


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Ken Smith
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As we approach the 10 match mark the League table ought to give some indication of where we’re at but because there have already been 30 away as opposed to 44 home wins in the Championship we’re no nearer to discovering which clubs will be in contention for a 5th play off place or a relegation place as only 5 points separate the two positions. For example West Brom have won only one home match yet have drawn 6 matches in total whilst Blackburn and Reading have yet to draw any match. It’s still important to have a good home record, but equally as important to start winning away from home which Boro have yet to achieve, that’s why I dislike draws as they’re almost becoming worthless in the grand scheme of things.

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jarkko
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Mogga won yesterday.  So they are in the top six now. I am sure he will do nicely with the young squad at Sunderland.  Happy for him.

I still think our problem is too many changes during the  summer window. I won't panic yet.

We must wait  - a change of the manager would be the worst option now. I often wonder if we did react too hastly in replacing Monk - of course there must have been other reasons, too.

Remember, this is football and building a team takes months on the training ground. At times, the Wilderball is a joy to watch. Up the Boro! 


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jarkko
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Just to continue. With all the new players in the squad, and the shaky start we have had, Boro still lack confidence, which may take time to remedy. We will take two steps forward but occationally one backwards, too.

I have seen enough football to see these things happening. And even played a bit. So let's hope we can stitch together a better result on Saturday.  Up the Boro!


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