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Boro battled hard in a physical encounter down at The Den on Saturday as the spoils were shared. Millwall tested us with some tough tackling and many a long ball but the Boro boys handled it and came away with a useful point.

There was no lack of energy from Chris Wilder’s men as they chased and harried and put in their fair share of challenges but the problem, perhaps, was that all that determination was put into keeping a valuable clean sheet, leaving very little with which to attack the hosts. In possession, there was a clear lack of tempo and even the ever-tricky Isiah Jones failed to beat his man on the few occasions he had him isolated.

In the end, it was a decent watch and a good point on the road against another playoff hopeful but Chris Wilder will be hoping for a little more in an attacking sense.

Once again, he doesn’t have long to wait as next up Boro travel to Birmingham City on Tuesday evening for a 7.45pm kick-off.

It’s been a lacklustre season for Lee Bowyer’s men. The Blues are treading water in 19th place but with little threat of relegation in a campaign that, frankly, isn’t going anywhere. Their form is equally so-so with 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats in their last 6.

The main issue for the hosts appears to be in defence. With 56 goals conceded this term, they are the league’s 4th leakiest back line. That said, only 6 sides have scored fewer so they are not in great shape at either end of the pitch in truth.

Recent home results against the playoff contenders don’t offer any reasons to be fearful, with the Blues having lost at St Andrews to Huddersfield, Sheffield United and QPR this calendar year, though they did manage to find some form against Luton a month ago as they thrashed the Hatters 3-0.

Boro have a strong recent record down at St Andrews as well, with the last 6 encounters finishing with 3 wins, 2 draws and just 1 defeat. The previous fixture being that unexpected 4-1 win for the Boro when Lewis Wing bagged a brace.

Of course, Boro haven’t managed a Championship away win since December but, having passed up the opportunities at Bristol City and Barnsley, this is another decent opportunity to end that run and perhaps those two chastening afternoons will serve as the motivation Boro need to get the job done this time.

We await fitness news of Anfernee Djiksteel and Riley McGree but otherwise Chris Wilder doesn’t have too many options to play with. With Joe Lumley finding some better performances of late, the main question marks remain around which strike partnership to go with as none have yet convinced. Typically, this is the one area of the squad where Boro are blessed with numbers but none of the five have yet stood out from the crowd to grasp a starting place beyond doubt.

Josh Coburn may be the most lethal finisher of the group but perhaps his all-round game is still a work in progress, whilst Falorin Balogun and the improving Aaron Connolly both appear to be better in the build-up than in the moments that really matter. Watmore continues to press, chase and hurry the opposition but his fitness is clearly an issue, whilst Andraz Sporar’s confidence has evaporated since Balogun and Connolly arrived. Maybe Sporar needs the old arm around the shoulder and a run of games to get back to being a player that, lest we forget, was good enough to be signed by Sporting Lisbon.

Decisions to be made up front then but this fixture is one that Boro should be confident to attack if they are serious about finishing in that top six. An away win would do us the world of good. Can we do it?


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Thanks for a great opener Andy well done.

Hopefully we will get a result but I’m going for another eyeballs 👀 

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Thanks for the opener.

I've dreaded games at St Andrews since the FA Cup quarter final in '75. We rocked up to that having not lost to Birmingham since the age of the dinosaurs and in great form. Our first ever semi-final was in sight. And we lost. 

That said, it's probably as good a time as any to go there. Their season has petered out and they aren't known as a hard pressing team. We know what our failings are but if we get it right we should have too much for them.

I would like us to start with a 3-4-3 just to see if it gets us off to a fast start and to force Birmingham to react to us but I don't think we will. Still, put me in the cautiously optimistic camp going for a 2-0 win. 


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Thanks Andy, another great opener. 

Well CW has made the point that we cannot achieve a top six position by merely winning at home and if we are to achieve an away win then this would be the ideal place to start. 

McGree will not be available as CW has already stated that he won’t be available to us until after the international break, so it will probably be the same starting eleven as at Millwall.

We just have to hope that there is an improvement in the final third of the pitch where, as you mentioned, we looked pedestrian in both thought and execution on Saturday. 

It would be good if Millwall could be the start of a non losing run in the league until the end of the season; other teams have been doing it so why not us!

Another close game on what I gather is a poor and bumpy pitch which will not suit our passing game and more likely to suit Birmingham.  If we can replicate the fighting spirit and work ethic shown at Millwall then we should be able to come away with a result and ideally all three points.  

CoB 0-1 and at least one correct prediction for my Exmil entry! 😎

 


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Thanks for the starter Andy. For a few moments it raised my hopes that we would get that elusive away win and that could lead to further wins in the rest of the season. However I am worried that with the small number of players CW has available there seems to be some some physical and mental tiredness. There won't have been much recovery time before the Birmingham game (and again before Chelsea). Even after the international break we, and most other teams, have 8 games in April but we don't have anything like a full 25 squad players to choose from.  


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Thank you for another nice Headliner Andy. A must win game to keep us in touch. I have it down for another defeat, but what do I know.

David’s correct, there are a number of players now that look knackered and have run out of ideas in the final third.

Again I know it’s old moans, but the transfer windows have been relatively poor and we have ended up with a lop-sided squad very short of back up quality and both our (expensive) creative midfielders injured.

 


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https://twitter.com/guvpaul1/status/1503126616448323591?s=21

VAR to be installed at Boro

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https://twitter.com/guvpaul1/status/1503126616448323591?s=21

VAR to be installed at Boro

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Knowing our luck this probably means we will score and the goal is given by the ref but overruled by VAR! 😉😎


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Draws either away or at home ain’t going to get Boro into the playoffs. I’m not convinced that Boro will win away from home again this season, and it’s beyond reason to expect Boro to keep on winning at home. In all honesty I think that even Chris Wilder doesn’t expect Boro to reach the playoffs this season. That’s not to say that Boro won’t be trying, but the squad isn’t good enough I’m afraid and Wilder has stated that he needs another couple of transfer windows to have the players he needs to push for promotion.

At the moment does anyone think that any of the promoted sides including Fulham are good enough to survive in the Premier League next season. The chasm is widening year after year and until the Championship is reduced to a maximum of 20 clubs I don’t see that reducing. Preferably I would like to see both the Premier League and the Premier League 2 (now the Championship) both reduced to 18 clubs as in Germany, but that ain’t going to happen either. 

As an aside I notice that the last two weeks of Premier League matches hasn’t produced a draw, whereas the Italian Serie A produced more draws than positive results, and those that did were usually settled by a single goal. But who wants to watch boring Italian or French football for that matter?

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Thanks for the opener, Andy.
I reckon this is a must win game for us - a loss on Tuesday and wins for those around us could make the gap too big to make up before the end of the season. 


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At the moment does anyone think that any of the promoted sides including Fulham are good enough to survive in the Premier League next season. The chasm is widening year after year

Probably not. Thing is, next season the gap will be even wider and I very much doubt that if we don't go up we can improve the squad enough in the championship to prevent the gap getting even wider for us too. It's a bit like watching house prices go up faster than you can save. No matter how well we do the in the championship next season, we will be further behind the Premier league than we are now.

What's more, teams like Leeds have shown that even if you survive one season comfortably that the second season will kill you. Wilder discovered that with Sheffield Utd. Really you're hoping that one or two other teams implode each season and that you do better than the teams you are promoted with. Brentford will stay up this season because Leeds, Burnley and Everton have all collapsed this year but they will be relegated next year. 

I don't know what the answer is. If three from Norwich, Burnley, Watford and Everton get relegated then they will all end up in top 3 or 4 next season which means we are, realistically, fighting for 1 of 3 play-off spots next season.


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I don't know what the answer is. If three from Norwich, Burnley, Watford and Everton get relegated then they will all end up in top 3 or 4 next season which means we are, realistically, fighting for 1 of 3 play-off spots next season.”

It’s all a bit odd isn’t it, this need to get to the EPL, even though our chances of staying up are very slim? I don’t know what the answer is - surely not every club can be owned by oligarchs, sheiks and wealth funds. 
Given a choice this season I’d rather get to an FA Cup Final than be promoted to a league where we’d lose the majority of games and be last on MOTD every week. Another season of pushing for the play offs in the Championship seems more attractive to me than the prospect of being cannon fodder for the big boys. 
I do concede that as I don’t get to (m)any games my views may not concur with those who’d get to visit the EPL clubs, especially those younger supporters who weren’t around in our glory years. 


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The least clinical strikers in the Championship (minimum of 30 shots):

1️⃣ Martyn Waghorn - 2.9% of shots result in a goal
2️⃣ Aaron Connolly - 3.2%
3️⃣ Lukas Jutkiewicz - 4.8%
4️⃣ Oli McBurnie - 5%
5️⃣ David McGoldrick - 6.1%
6️⃣ Cauley Woodrow - 6.2%

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The least clinical strikers in the Championship (minimum of 30 shots):

1️⃣ Martyn Waghorn - 2.9% of shots result in a goal
2️⃣ Aaron Connolly - 3.2%
3️⃣ Lukas Jutkiewicz - 4.8%
4️⃣ Oli McBurnie - 5%
5️⃣ David McGoldrick - 6.1%
6️⃣ Cauley Woodrow - 6.2%

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Crikey.

One plays for us, one used to play for us, one we very nearly signed and two played for Wilder at Sheffield Utd.

Don't be surprised if we sign Cauley Woodrow this summer!


   
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The least clinical strikers in the Championship (minimum of 30 shots):

1️⃣ Martyn Waghorn - 2.9% of shots result in a goal
2️⃣ Aaron Connolly - 3.2%
3️⃣ Lukas Jutkiewicz - 4.8%
4️⃣ Oli McBurnie - 5%
5️⃣ David McGoldrick - 6.1%
6️⃣ Cauley Woodrow - 6.2%

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Crikey.

One plays for us, one used to play for us, one we very nearly signed and two played for Wilder at Sheffield Utd.

Don't be surprised if we sign Cauley Woodrow this summer!

A while back, I would have said ‘Go and get Jutkiewicz! ‘ He seemed to be on fire. Not any more, evidently! I wouldn’t have either McGoldrick or McBirnie in a lucky bag. 

But what really surprises me about the list is that Connelly has had at least 30 shots! Eh???? Yer jokin arn yer?! 

It’s a must-not-lose game tomorrow. Boro are knackered, so I’m expecting a hard game again. I think we might nick it 1-0, assuming someone - anyone - in red can muster the strength to shoot! I’d be tempted to give Coburn a game. I hope Wilder has told the boys that there’s to be no slacking - they’ll obviously all want to play against Chelsea, so will want to avoid injury. Tomorrow’s is clearly the more important game - we have to approach it as fully committed as against Millwall. 


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Let's hope I don't lose this (again). Here goes...

I haven't the time to do all the statistics, Ken, but I don't think it's right to say that the 3 teams being relegated from the PL one season will be the teams promoted to it the following season, and vice-versa (therefore that Fulham are favourites for relegation next year) .

The relegated clubs may start out with an advantage over the rest of their Championship competition, particularly if they are well-funded and retain the majority of their better players. But in May 2020 Cardiff City and Hull City were relegated; in May 2019 it was Swansea and Stoke; in May 2018 it was Sunderland, Boro and Hull. The key fact to be taken into account is that NONE of those seven teams have (yet) made it back into the Premier League and we are going back less than 4 years. That means more than a third of the entire PL has left that league and been replaced by other teams. So it cannot be correct that teams, once relegated, will inevitably be promoted again which would be necessary if it were possible to consider the PL is effectively 23 teams, with 3 temporarily staying for one season in The Championship.

In the current season 2021-22, Fulham look almost certain to go back up, having been relegated the previous season (so obviously SOME of the teams go up and down, like Norwich for example, and like Fulham probably will this season). But the other two PL relegated clubs in 2020-21 were WBA and Sheffield United. Realistically WBA are out of the equation and there is only a CHANCE that the Blades will go up - so the probability this season is that only ONE of the 3 relegated teams last season will go up.

I think, next season, there is a real CHANCE Fulham may be good enough to stay up in the PL. They score goals - a lot of them - in the Championship and that is vital to retaining PL status. They will probably also improve their squad. Without wishing to sound facetious, there will be several Chelsea players out of contract and/or not sure whether they will be paid next season and the move from Chelsea to Fulham would be a very short walk. WAGs and families can still enjoy the "benefits" of living in one of the two major World Cities (apparently New York & London vie for that title - a great place for the rich to live in - and no need to move house).

Even having a perfectly good character multi-billionnaire own your club does not guarantee success in football. As I might have said before, even if all 20 teams were owned by different combinations of billionnaires from from friendly countries, three of those teams would still get relegated at the end of the season. I wonder whether the Chelsea game would be a good one at which to give the "Fit & Proper Person" Steve Gibson banner another airing...?

 


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I’m with Martin on this, it’s a great opportunity for Boro to at least reach the FA Cup Semifinal this season if not even the Final especially with no replays, although I’m not in favour of Semifinals being played at Wembley.

In the past apart from local derbies the latter stages of the FA Cup usually attracted the biggest attendances no matter who the opposition were. Winning the FA Cup cannot be erased from the history books, just ask the supporters of Barnsley, Blackpool, Bradford City, Cardiff City, Charlton Athletic, Coventry City, Ipswich Town, Notts County, Wigan Athletic or Wimbledon what defined their history and I’d be surprised if none of them didn’t mention their one and only FA Cup win. Similarly if Boro were to win it either in 60 minutes, 90 minutes or in a penalty shoot out I’d like to think that Boro fans would feel the same, especially having taken the scalp of 3 or 4 of the Premier League’s top 6 teams on the way. I’m sure that the majority of the 30,000 spectators for the Chelsea match are expecting Boro to win, or why would they be bothered in attending. 

As for the Premier League many real supporters, not the foreign contingent who have only watched Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal on television, think that the Premier League has ruined football and made it into an elitist sport. If the Premier League 2 had the same investment and same coverage as the existing Premier League, that would help as would salary capping. After all the present Championship is reputed to attract higher attendances than most of the major European top Leagues. If, for example every Premier League 2 match was televised on say BT Sport, BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 that might also redress the situation. Could it work? Why not if football is to preserve its status as the beautiful game. 

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There’s a lot of wisdom in what you say, FD. Norwich, in particular, seem to have accepted that they’ll be a yo-yo club and have adopted a system to accommodate their EPL and Championship strategies. I think I’d be quite happy for Boro to follow that lead. 
If I knew that, even if we were relegated from the top tier after one season, we’d be strongly fancied to go back up, I’d be more comfortable I think. If it means bolstering our squad with expensive and attractive signings once we are promoted only for those players to leave if we go back down, I’d be very doubtful if our ability to get up there again. 
As for the Chelsea game, I really hope their fans (however few there may be) don’t support their sanctioned oligarch by chanting his name. 


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I’m with Martin on this, it’s a great opportunity for Boro to at least reach the FA Cup Semifinal this season if not even the Final especially with no replays, although I’m not in favour of Semifinals being played at Wembley.

In the past apart from local derbies the latter stages of the FA Cup usually attracted the biggest attendances no matter who the opposition were. Winning the FA Cup cannot be erased from the history books, just ask the supporters of Barnsley, Blackpool, Bradford City, Cardiff City, Charlton Athletic, Coventry City, Ipswich Town, Notts County, Wigan Athletic or Wimbledon what defined their history and I’d be surprised if none of them didn’t mention their one and only FA Cup win. Similarly if Boro were to win it either in 60 minutes, 90 minutes or in a penalty shoot out I’d like to think that Boro fans would feel the same, especially having taken the scalp of 3 or 4 of the Premier League’s top 6 teams. I’m sure that the majority of the 30,000 spectators for the Chelsea match are expecting Boro to win, or why would they be bothered in attending. 

As for the Premier League many real supporters, not the foreign contingent who have only watched Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal on television, think that the Premier League has ruined football and made it an elitistical sport. If a Premier League 2 was introduced with every match televised either on BT Sport, BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 or wherever and an equal of the funding put into the existing Premier League that might redress the situation, as would salary capping and the monopoly of signing most of the youth of the country by the existing Premier League. It has been reported that the Championship attracts higher attendances than most of the top European premier leagues, so isn’t it time that the wealth in English football was shared more realistically if English football is to retain its status of the beautiful game? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Martin - It's a difficult tightrope to walk across, on the playing acquisition and payment front.  A team good enough to go up, and with some prudent strengthening to give at least some chance of staying up the following year, yet without busting the club if relegation follows and when many of the players no longer want to remain at the club if, despite best efforts, the club is relegated. That scenario is often followed by a firesale. Not quite as bad as at Sunderland when it is followed by successive relegations where players who've performed SO badly can't be given away, but their wages have to be paid, but still bad....

In the absence of Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates discovering a long-lost grandparent from Middlesbrough and therefore a deep and abiding wish to invest multi-millions in MFC, the best course appears to be to build a decent team by good scouting, a good academy system and good management and coaching and, hopefully by prudent activity in the transfer market, to get to a position to challenge for promotion. In the event promotion is achieved, the extra income and sponsorhips etc MIGHT enable gradual strengthening that would survive relegation and ensure that any team relegated would be stronger than the team it had been when promoted.  By gradual improvement in the playing staff it would hopefully be possible to REMAIN in the PL and, again, gradually secure and improve the position within that league.

That's the theory. I suppose if it were than simple, somebody might have been able to achieve it (permanently) before now....

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I for one would consider the Chelsea match as MORE important than the Birmingham match.


   
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FD - In the words of The Propellerheads & Shirley Bassey, “It’s all just a little bit of history repeating” 😉


   
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If things had gone very differently this last week and we’d managed a draw against Sheff Utd and a win at Millwall, I could see us losing tonight as the players minds drifted to Chelsea at the weekend.

However, with us only gaining one point, I think minds will be sharpened tonight even if the limbs are tired.

I went for a draw in the Exmil challenge but I’m going to upgrade my prediction to a 2-0  win, with Connolly and Balogun scoring in each half.


   
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As with every game in this league this season its nigh on impossible to have any idea of what the outcome will be. i really have no idea what to think.

On the other hand, as with almost every other game this season you can almost guarantee another well written opener from AndyR....thanks as always for your time and craft.

 

Back to tonight. Like I said ...no idea.

I agree that we can expect Boro to be well motivated to take the game to Brum and to make sure of three points. I also agree the players are tiring and that despite being motivated a little weariness will make getting three points a tall order. I also agree that for some the glamour tie of Chelsea is a distraction and players will not be so focused. I also agree that with our squad and current availability, then CW has very few different options. 

Heart so wants us to win. Head so realistic that none of win lose or draw will be a surprise. But I'm a fan, not a pundit, so my heart wins this internal debate and we will win tonight, but my heart will be in my mouth while watching, until the outcome looks clear.

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I have no clue - so I will go for a Boro 1 nil victory just for the hell of it.

BTW - the Millwall match was enthralling and enjoyed every minute of it. Sure I would have been disappointed had we lost but not moody or upset like the Sheff Match.

 

I cant remember a season where we have played so many entertaining matches, long may it continue even if we don't get into the EPL [English Piggy Laundrymat].

Had to larff at Putin's gesture to support Peppa Pig, but the biggest one for me was the cartoon in the paper the other day about the EPL and the Russian advertizing in the background.

Our cartoonists are so funny on many levels. The Russian Yachtbroker's sign at the football ground was in Cryllic so asked my wife for a translation and she told me Floating Penis . . .that has kept me happy for the past few days like nothing else. She didn't see what was funny about it..!

Anyhow here's to a goal or two tonight for the Boro.

 

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For those of you of a superstitious nature Birmingham City are winless in 13 of their last 14 Tuesday evening matches having drawn 6 and lost 7. Meanwhile in Boro’s last 10 Tuesday evening matches 8 have seen both teams score, so I’m going for a 1-1 draw which will not help Boro’s cause at all in their quest for a top 6 playoff position.


   
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another away game- having suffered one loss and one draw it would be really good to have one away win. But I wouldn’t gamble on it . I think all three results are possible. 

What chance our non scoring forwards managing a goal or two tonight? I’d not put money on them.

Where are we heading to finish in the League?  

I’ve ruled out the top five as I think they’ll be taken by Fulham, Bournemouth , Huddersfield, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United and either QPR or Luton.

So that leaves the likes of Boro contesting sixth place with one of the above plus eg Blackburn, Coventry and Millwall. I suppose you can’t rule out a late charge from a surprise team.

Its good that Boro are in with a shout of a play off place- it keeps the interest going and to achieve a top six place and lose in the playoffs would be deemed to be a satisfactory season.

I don’t go along with not wanting to get in the Premiership because we’d get relegated the following season.
The parachute payments provide an opportunity to strengthen the team and emulate eg Bournemouth, Burnley, Brentford who have proved it can be done and some have had longer stints in the Premiership 

Nor would I like to see all Championships games televised as it just makes more of us into armchair supporters. I can’t remember so many Championship games this season - I assume Boro are on the Red button tonight .

So tonight’s score- possibly another draw with a hope of a win to prove if nothing else that the team is capable of winning away from home after some recent shocking away results.

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“Nor would I like to see all Championships games televised as it just makes more of us into armchair supporters.”

Sorry Philip but we will have to agree to disagree on that one.  

I can understand your point of view if it is about the lack of crowds and atmosphere in the stadiums being affected because fans stay at home.

On the other hand, as someone who moved away from Teesside at age 19 and has moved and lived both around the UK and now abroad, the TV broadcasting/streaming of matches has enabled me to keep watching my team.

In my late teens and twenties I was able to see a lot of Boro games both home and away but that became less feasible once a family came along. I have therefore enjoyed the seasons in the EPL with the availability to see live matches on Sky or extended highlights. The introduction of live streaming of EFL matches to overseas supporters is for me a great and positive development.

I would go even further and say that were I to be back in the UK but not living on Teesside I would be prepared to pay the price of a season ticket to be able to watch a live stream of the games; certainly under CW’s stewardship but less so under a few of his predecessors!  

It remains to be seen if that option ever becomes a reality but at present the non broadcasting of Saturday afternoon games at 3:00pm seems to be sacrosanct.

I shall be watching via Riverside Live tonight and hoping we can get the much needed three points to keep our top six hopes alive. 😎

 

 

 

 

 

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