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Michael Carrick is unlikely to become the new Middlesbrough manager.

The former England and Manchester United midfielder met club officials on Tuesday and does want to become a manager at some point.

However, it is understood there was no agreement and the 41-year-old views the time as not yet being right to return to the game.

He stepped away from Old Trafford last December, when Ralf Rangnick replaced Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as interim boss.

Carrick won two of his three games in charge, with a 2-0 win at Villarreal in the Champions League and a 3-2 victory over Arsenal in the Premier League.

He was pictured among United supporters at Everton on Sunday.

Middlesbrough have been without a permanent manager since Chris Wilder was sacked last week, with Leo Percovich in interim charge.

They are currently 21st in the Championship.

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For the first time, I have seen a photo of Keiran Scott in tonights EG, my scottish instincts tell me I wouldn't trust him with anything to do with Middlesbrough or if he had a shop, I wouldn't be one  of his customers. Chris Wilder obviously had the same feeling.

SG seems to be very impressed with him but how many times  has our chairman taken people on board only to eventually find that he has made a wrong choice.


   
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@original-fat-bob 

Sounds like that old gentle let down of "it's not you it's me" - probably not ideal to start your managerial career after the season has started in the middle of a busy fixture schedule with a club in crisis just above the relegation zone with no prospect of bringing in any players for over three months. Could end his career as a number one before it had started in a manner only Liz Truss would appreciate...


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@malcolm 

You've just reminded me why I don't use a photograph of myself as a gravatar 😉 


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Hannes Wolf? Must admit I’ve never heard of him, but then my knowledge of continental football and its top coaches is somewhat less than encyclopaedic! But Steve Gibson’s strategy is now becoming clear. Woodgate, Warnock, Wilder, Wolf. What’s the common factor? Never mind this 4-2-3-1 rubbish! It’s obvious he wants us to set up in a 3-5-2 ‘W’ formation, and is seeking the best man to do that! Me, I knew he should have gone for Paul Warne before Derby snapped him up! 


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On a more serious note, is anybody else slightly perturbed that Boro are taking so long to find the right man? While it is encouraging that SG is clearly doing full due diligence and is determined to get it right after several recent false starts, I’m concerned that leaving Leo in charge for another game is a risky gamble. Blackburn are no mugs and will be a tough challenge. We all love Leo but he showed against Millwall that he didn’t have any answers and even his legendary enthusiasm didn’t seem to rub off on the players. SG must have the same anxiety about our league position as the rest of us. I would have thought the imperative would be to get the new manager working with the players as quickly as possible. 


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Don’t shoot the messenger !

Lee Cattermole now favourite for the job !

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@original-fat-bob 

Bang!


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@original-fat-bob 

These Chinese whispers are getting out of hand - I heard the recruitment process was turning into whack-a-mole...


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Could this be another Woodgate. Cheap and not so Cheerful.


   
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@pedro 

I hope they're not using the same process of elimination that identified Woodgate as the standout candidate - in which case I think I may have discovered a possible error in the algorithm!


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OK, I'm going to sleep on the idea of Lee Cattermole being the next man in charge at Boro and see how I feel if I wake up...


   
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@clive-hurren?  Yes Clive this has the hallmarks of the Woodgate appointment all over again.  He was the name in the frame (cheap option) at the outset but it took the club weeks to make the appointment.

Rob Edwards was the first name to be mentioned following CW’s dismissal and I now expect him to be appointed. 😎


   
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@original-fat-bob. Bang, second barrel of Len’s shotgun! 😎


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@original-fat-bob Lee cattermole thought it was April 1st, if this happens I will say Gibson has taken the cheap, easy option. After the shambles on Saturday against Millwall anybody who was involved from a managerial standpoint should not be involved. Cattermole I would rather have Dyche not that he would come. Its a big no from me


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@ Werdermouth 

I’d go along with Lee Cattermole. At least it would break up the alliteration of previous manager appointments mentioned by Clive Hurren. The question is though is he too young at the age of 34?  However Brian Clough was only 30 when appointed manager at Hartlepool and saved them from relegation or applying for re-election in his first season.


   
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Posted by: @werdermouth

OK, I'm going to sleep on the idea of Lee Cattermole being the next man in charge at Boro and see how I feel if I wake up...

Nooòoooooooooooooooooooooooooo


   
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You'll be glad to hear that I did wake up and having slept on the idea of Lee Cattermole being placed in charge at Boro, I have concluded that there's absolutely no way Steve Gibson is going to appoint him. As Ken has pointed out, he's only 34 - that's even younger than Southgate was - and with all respect to Hartlepool, Boro are a muti-million Championship club supposedly aiming to get promotion to the Premier League. It's nonsense to even consider he is the best candidate from the dozen or so mentioned as contenders - Besides, he doesn't even have UEFA Pro licence so is only qualified to coach in the second tier and lower. So sounds like a red herring to me and not a credible option.


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My missus's take:

"Lee Cattermole? Well as long as he appoints Lee Bowyer as his assistant it should all work out well."


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From the Northern Echo...

Lee Cattermole new favourite to be manager

Though if you read this paragraph in the article then it should really answer the question as to whether it's a good idea...

While Percovich is not understood to be under consideration for a permanent post, Cattermole is increasingly being viewed as a viable option despite his lack of coaching and managerial experience.

 


   
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I refuse to believe any of this media chat, just clickbait based on nowt apart from no information so just make it up.

Even Mr Gibson wouldn't do another 'Woodgate' would he? Or would he? Repeat your mistakes at your peril. However I am glad Carrick and the cronies are out of the running. Were they the sticking point?

Just keep on clicking.

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The Catt's out of the bag, it seems.


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The clear advantage that Cattermole may have over most other candidates is that he is one of the few people around who may be prepared to defer to Kieran Scott as a senior colleague, even if only on the grounds of age rather than experience.

A Cattermole appointment would certainly confirm Boro as part of the now ubiquitous anti-growth coalition.


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Before the puns begin on what would be a Cattastrophic appointment , may I tip my hat to Werder's lovely whack-a- mole reference?


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Whatever one's views on Chris Wilder, I think it is now possible to state categorically that:

1. The Boro did not have someone better lined up to replace him

2  Whoever is appointed is unlikely to be an upgrade on the previous incumbent.


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Posted by: @lenmasterman

Whatever one's views on Chris Wilder, I think it is now possible to state categorically that:

1. The Boro did not have someone better lined up to replace him

2  Whoever is appointed is unlikely to be an upgrade on the previous incumbent.

It does seem pretty obvious that there was a critical breakdown and that the club hadn't planned on sacking Wilder. Seems akin to the Monk sacking though at least then Gibson had Pulis waiting in the wings. 

Wilder's track record indicates that he is one of the best Championship managers in the game. It has now been blotted twice: once when he was sacked from Sheffield Utd and once when sacked from us having taken us into the relegation zone. Undoubtedly, whoever we hire won't have Wilder's track record. We can hope that we hire a young, up and coming coach who can grow with us. Or Gibson can just appoint a random homeless person off the street. 

I really hope that Gibson hasn't gone full Elon Musk on us. Too many years surrounded by sycophants and with unconstrained power. 


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I am not sayig that Woodgate or Southgate were succesful at Boro, but our most successful managers in general were in their first job as a manager.

MacClaren was the most successful ever, followed by Jack Charlton and Bobby Robson. The last promotion was archieved by Karanka. All new comers.

The old brigade of Wilder, Warnock and Puls were the worst. Dinosaurused. So not looking like a solution.

I am 61 one now. At work I report to a lad who is 34 year old. Same age as my daughter. So the age is just a number, alibility matters more.

We need a manager who fits the system. Please keep an open mind. Up the Boro!


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Posted by: @jarkko

I am not sayig that Woodgate or Southgate were succesful at Boro, but our most successful managers in general were in their first job as a manager.

MacClaren was the most successful ever, followed by Jack Charlton and Bobby Robson. The last promotion was archieved by Karanka. All new comers.

The old brigade of Wilder, Warnock and Puls were the worst. Dinosaurused. So not looking like a solution.

I am 61 one now. At work I report to a lad who is 34 year old. Same age as my daughter. So the age is just a number, alibility matters more.

We need a manager who fits the system. Please keep an open mind. Up the Boro!

I think it's less do with age and more to do with context.

Robson, McClaren and Karanka where all on their first job but were financially supported and succeeded more than failed.

Woodgate and Southgate were on their first job and bought in to preside over cost-cutting. Both failed.

Pulis was parachuted in to deal with the Monkopolyse and despite having the most expensive team in the league, failed to get us promoted. Warnock hit his initial goal of keeping us up but couldn't take the next step. Wilder looked like the bees knees but then turned toxic. Strachan is probably the worst failure of all: taking a team that should have won promotion at the first chance and crippling it. Mowbray saved us from Strachanism but fell of a cliff. 

What is particularly notable about the gates is that they were first time appointments from within. Cattermole would be the third in that line and, if he gets appointed, then like Woodgate, he'll be gone in 6 months with us staring into the abyss. He has even less experience than Woodgate and is taking over a team in a far worse state than anyone since Monk and Mowbray. 


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@deleriad 

I agree that now is not the time for a complete novice to be placed in charge of the team - too much can go wrong and then what?

I made the point earlier on Andy's new Blackburn preview that surely it's not too much to ask of the club to find someone suitable - I hope all this talk of Cattermole is just that.


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It all sounds like myself as a child when after standing up and saluting King George VI during the playing of the National Anthem at the end of the major film, then plaintively asking my mother when would it be my father’s turn to be King. Perhaps that’s the idea, just another 30,000 interviews for Steve Gibson and his next of kin to decide our new manager. Though by that time we’ll be back where we started in the Northern League.


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