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Evangelos Marinakis keeps making bad decision after bad decision but blames everyone else - it's quite ridiculous that he dismissed Nuno Espírito Santo in September, replaced him with Ange Postecoglou who only lasted a month before Sean Dyche took over until yesterday with now former-wolves boss, Vítor Pereira, now in line to take over.

He also owns Olympiakos, who went through 6 managers in 16 months after appointing Carlos Corberan in 2022. Marinakis philosophy appears to be keep sacking managers until someone happens to start winning regularly - not an exact science and more hit and miss.

  1. Carlos Corberan - 48 days
  2. Michel - 194 days
  3. Jose Anigo (caretaker) - 88 days
  4. Diego Martinez - 157 days
  5. Carlos Carvalhal - 65 days
  6. Sotiris Silaidopoulos (caretaker) - 3 days

Though reports that apparently Sean Dyche isn't particularly liked by the players at Forest and previously it was claimed Everton players didn't like Dyche's style of football either. Perhaps his old school methods are no longer effective with plenty of younger coaches proving they can get results and play attractive football.


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Posted by: @forever-dormo

@stircrazy - What was the figure then? I guess £100M in the PL and, if relegated after just one season there, then two annual umbrella payments of £40M.  But if relegated after two or more seasons in the PL maybe three years of parachute payments.  Just my guess though...

FD:  I know Werder has posted a table, but here's a summary of the key points I think the article was trying to make:

Championship prize money

It’s an essentially binary prize money system: you either gain access to the Premier League, or you don’t.  That is at least in terms of the big rewards. However, there are still payments that Championship clubs receive. For example, per BBC Sport, during the 2024/25 season, Championship clubs received just under £11m, split 50/50 between ‘basic award’ amounts funded by TV deals, and solidarity payments from the Premier League.

Clubs that have been relegated from the Premier League within the last three years also received parachute payments: £49m each for first-year teams, £40m each for second-year teams, and £17m each for third-year teams.

Premier League prize money

The real value is in Premier League promotion. Make it to the top flight and you unlock the vast riches from major TV deals and per-position prize money that the lower leagues simply cannot match. 

Last season’s promoted teams were estimated to be approximately £200m each better off, gaining access to the Premier League’s domestic TV deal worth a staggering £6.7bn across its four-year term. Clubs will also receive centralised commercial fees, facility fees and merit payments and be entitled to possible parachute payments, if they are relegated back to the second tier. But the TV deal alone is believed to be worth an average of £83.75m per team, per season.

Premier League sides can also earn significantly more by finishing higher up the table. For example, champions Liverpool earned £174.9m in prize money last season, while Newcastle United picked up £160.2m for finishing fifth - enough for them to break back into the Champions League.

By contrast, Southampton bagged just £109.2m for finishing bottom - still a fortune, but small by comparison with Liverpool - while Tottenham and Manchester United ended up with £127.8m and £136.2m as they finished 17th and 15th, respectively. Tottenham’s prize fund was boosted by winning the Europa League.

All of the above is extracted from the article, but edited by me for superfluous (IMHO) comments. 

 



   
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@stircrazy 

Of course while the financial rewards of making it to the PL are high, the costs are even higher. If we take the three clubs promoted last season - Leeds, Burnley and Sunderland - between them they spent almost £450m on wages and net transfers spend this season.

Leeds - wage bill: £57m - transfers: £91m

Burnley - wage bill: £56m - transfers: £80m

Sunderland - wage bill: £61m - transfers: £118m

So basically they will spend more than they receive in a bid to remain in the PL and that is probably true of every team who is in the top flight. Whether it will work is another matter but the parachute payments may just about cover the contracts of the players who remain that they'll carry back to the Championship if they fail.


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@werdermouth - Thanks for those figures, Werder.



   
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Thanks, Malcolm.



   
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KH Championship Manager of the month. Was there any doubt? Hopefully not the usual curse associated with other Boro recipients.



   
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Posted by: @mw-in-darwin

KH Championship Manager of the month. Was there any doubt? Hopefully not the usual curse associated with other Boro recipients.

Bur he is Head Coach, not Manager 🤔

Send that award back immediately!!!

 



   
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@mw-in-darwin 

Maybe the Manager-of-the-Month curse is a myth? Maybe not... Rob Edwards won it in August after 4 wins and just look at him now 😉 - OK his record after August until he departed was W3 D5 L2 - 14 points from ten games. Indeed, with just one win at Wolves he's only won as many games as he won in August in over 6 months!

Also Frank Lampard won it in November with Coventry flying and since then his record is W4 D4 L6 - 16 points out of a possible 42 at just 1.14 points per game...

Yes, Hand it back Kim it's Kryptonite!!!



   
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Incidentally, Coventry's form since that award of 1.14 points per game is equivalent to just 52 points over a season - which is only 3 points more than Luton were relegated with last season.



   
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@werdermouth.  And long may it continue say I! 😉😎



   
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